tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5909131535009425348.post1971911840374251384..comments2023-10-10T05:18:30.479-07:00Comments on Qur'anic Musings: Does the Qur'an "copy" or "plagiarize" the Bible?Sharifhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03683966146725270053noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5909131535009425348.post-17600388774612777542023-03-03T04:15:08.051-08:002023-03-03T04:15:08.051-08:00I don't see how this "would not affect th...I don't see how this "would not affect the Quran's divinity".<br />If Quran says Jesus, peace be upon him, made living birds out of clay and it was his miracle, then it claims factuality, or historicity - it truly happened.<br /><br />You say:<br />"Even if that might be the case with some stories" - i.e. you have doubts that such fabricated and late stories could have indeed found their way into the authentic Islamic sources? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5909131535009425348.post-67298780662510813502020-01-05T09:34:25.993-08:002020-01-05T09:34:25.993-08:00وَأَنْزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ مُصَد...وَأَنْزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ الْكِتَابِ وَمُهَيْمِنًا عَلَيْهِ ۖ فَاحْكُمْ بَيْنَهُمْ بِمَا أَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ ۖ وَلَا تَتَّبِعْ أَهْوَاءَهُمْ عَمَّا جَاءَكَ مِنَ الْحَقِّ ۚ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلْنَا مِنْكُمْ شِرْعَةً وَمِنْهَاجًا ۚ وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمْ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً وَلَٰكِنْ لِيَبْلُوَكُمْ فِي مَا آتَاكُمْ ۖ فَاسْتَبِقُوا الْخَيْرَاتِ ۚ إِلَى اللَّهِ مَرْجِعُكُمْ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُمْ بِمَا كُنْتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ<br /><br />And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation [united in religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to differ.<br /><br />Quran: 5:48<br /><br />> A criterion of the scripture that preceded it<br />Any competent thinker would immediately realize that in order to be a criterion for something you have to actually reference it and talk about it. When a movie critic talks about a movie they are not plagiarizing the movie. When a teacher fact-checks a student’s essay they are not handing back a plagiarized version of the essay, but rather, a fact-checked one. Such is the stupidity of those who claim that the Quran is plagiarizing the OT/NT.Al-Maghrebihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03668334503324837943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5909131535009425348.post-75622033563427100032016-12-12T01:11:26.160-08:002016-12-12T01:11:26.160-08:00Even if that might be the case with some stories, ...Even if that might be the case with some stories, the Qur’an uses stories that were part of its milieu as parables to convey its teachings, and it’s style of narration is often ambiguous about their historicity, as many contemporary scholars and readers of the Qur’an have noted. So even if that is the case, it does not affect the Qur’an’s message or divinity in any way.Sharifhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03683966146725270053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5909131535009425348.post-73729807398048465212016-12-06T14:37:20.216-08:002016-12-06T14:37:20.216-08:00These clergymen mean it from a literary perspectiv...These clergymen mean it from a literary perspective, not from a historical one. Literary it's of course never a "borrowing", because the religious ideology beneath the Quranic story corpus (i.e. "dogmatic re-articulation") shaped the existing narratives to be of an "amending" purpose - it' pretty clear by itself for the most thinking sceptics, but it doesn't help the fact that these narratives existed before. And the critical point may emerge if sufficient evidence will be brought that the employed story couldn't have authentically gone back to a respective prophet's (say Jesus) time and had suffered from side influences afterwards.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09355750945752348730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5909131535009425348.post-51481113091751403122016-05-25T21:31:05.619-07:002016-05-25T21:31:05.619-07:00Aww, thanks Uncle Samir! :)Aww, thanks Uncle Samir! :)Sharifhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03683966146725270053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5909131535009425348.post-75765331191679845622016-05-25T20:36:20.110-07:002016-05-25T20:36:20.110-07:00this indeed a subject that is always recurring in ...this indeed a subject that is always recurring in others argument against Islam. I look forward, as I have since I met you a few years ago Sharif in your handling it in a profound & enlighting way. Uncle Samirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14749362907382286708noreply@blogger.com